When clients insist on working with you personally, the bottleneck is rarely about your team’s ability. It is about two separate problems: your team needs your method translated into real training, and your clients need a clear, confident message that your team delivers the same standard you do. Lia walks through the exact moves to solve both sides, from codifying your secret sauce to publicly edifying your team members in front of clients. This episode is most useful for founders, consultants, agency owners, and service-based business leaders who are stuck as the face of every client relationship.
This episode is part of the Delegation, Bottleneck & Getting Out of the Weeds series. Browse all episodes →
Mic drop moments
“The biggest problem we don’t have boundaries, of course, is that people keep taking. Because we haven’t set up a dynamic where they know what they can or can’t ask you or come to you for.”
“…you start to create a clear delineation between the things that you’re going to be involved in and the things that you really want your team members to own.”
“…we’re feeding this dependency that they have.”
“…when there’s more space, this is this beautiful area where your team members start to step up…”
Episode highlights
Why the boundary problem keeps getting worse
When you never define what team members can and cannot bring to you, they keep bringing everything. Not because they are needy, but because it works. Every time you answer, you reinforce the habit. The real issue is not that your team is too dependent; it is that a clear delineation between what you own and what they own has never been established.
Start by figuring out where you actually belong
Before you can offload anything, you need to know what you should be doing instead. Lia calls this getting into your zone of genius: the high-leverage work that only you can do, the strategy, the growth, the visibility for your team. If you skip this step, you end up ping-ponging from one fire to the next and never actually get free.
Delegating is not optional when the team has grown
If you built a junior team and hand-held them early, there comes a point where you have to stop holding the hand. Lia is direct here: evolving job expectations is not a favor you are asking. It is the job. When someone says they do not want to take on more, the conversation shifts to what the business needs and how you will support them in getting there, whether that means coaching, more resources, or adjusted timelines. And when responsibilities expand, talk openly about compensation, titles, and what is in it for them.
Frame the boundary shift as a growth move, not a burnout signal
Lia flags a common mistake: explaining the change by saying things feel like too much. Instead, frame it around what the team and business need at this stage. Something like: “I am realizing I need to be looking up and out, finding more opportunities to grow the business and highlight your work so you can be promoted and paid better.” That framing lands very differently than “I am overwhelmed.”
The meeting handoff: a real example
One engineering manager told Lia he could not leave any meetings because his team wanted him there for air cover during difficult conversations. Her advice: stop attending, but set your team members up first. Walk them through what typically comes up, give them a script for handling new work requests (“we will come back to you with an estimate”), and debrief afterward. You are not abandoning them. You are teaching them to fly, then checking in on the landing.
Boundary setting is a muscle, not a milestone
This is not a one-and-done conversation. Especially if you tend to jump back in the moment things get hard, you will need to revisit these questions regularly: Where am I best situated right now? What can I delegate? What expectations need to be reset? Building the habit is the whole point. And when you do create that space, Lia is clear on what happens next: team members step up, performance becomes visible, and you finally have the mental room to figure out whether you have the right team for the next phase.
Related episodes in this cluster
- Ep 233: Why you’re still the point person for everything (and how to fix it). Being stuck as the final decision-maker on everything is almost never a delegation problem. Before delegation can work, three things have to be in place: the right people, clarity on where you as the owner should focus, and simple systems that reduce noise. This episode is most useful for business owners and team leads who have already hired and communicated expectations but are still buried in the weeds.
- Ep 231: Why delegating keeps failing (and the shift that actually fixes it). Delegation fails when leaders dispatch tasks instead of handing off outcomes, keeping themselves as the bottleneck at every step. The fix is shifting from fetch-the-answer assignments to giving a team member ownership of a full result, with clear context, defined success, and agreed checkpoints. This episode is especially useful for leaders who know they should delegate more but still find everything coming back to them.
- Ep 225: How to stop being the bottleneck on every decision your team makes. When your team brings every decision to you for final sign-off, you are doing two jobs at once and your team is never building real ownership. Lia’s fix is to articulate your own decision-making process, then deliberately offload specific decisions with a simple communication system so you stay informed without staying in the weeds. This episode is especially useful for founders and team leads whose capable people are still waiting on them before moving forward.
- Ep 221: Clients keep asking for you by name. How do you hand off work without losing their trust?. When clients insist on working with you personally, the bottleneck is rarely about your team’s ability. It is about two separate problems: your team needs your method translated into real training, and your clients need a clear, confident message that your team delivers the same standard you do. Lia walks through the exact moves to solve both sides, from codifying your secret sauce to publicly edifying your team members in front of clients. This episode is most useful for founders, consultants, agency owners, and service-based business leaders who are stuck as the face of every client relationship.
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The biggest problem we don’t have boundaries, of course, is that people keep taking. Because we haven’t set up a dynamic where they know what they can or can’t ask you or come to you for. And this doesn’t mean you start drawing a hard line, you say, hey, get out of here, you know, don’t ask me anything. But you start to create a clear delineation between the things that you’re going to be involved in and the things that you really want your team members to own.
Welcome to the Managing Made Simple podcast, where you get a masterclass in managing your team with ease in 15 minutes or less. I’m Lia Garvin, your host and team operations consultant. Through this show and my programs with small businesses and corporate teams, I condense a decade of experience driving team operations in some of the most influential companies in tech into strategies to save you time, money, and most of all, stress. Doesn’t matter if you’re a business owner who realized that running a team isn’t as easy as you thought it would be.
Are a new manager learning the ropes or a seasoned manager ready to up their game? Everyone is welcome to hang out with Managing Made Simple. From conflicts to feedback to delegating and more, we leave no stone unturned when it comes to what makes us love managing, kind of hate it, and everything in between. Let’s go. Managing people is the hardest thing about running a business or being a team leader. I mean, of course it is, right?
We’re dealing with people. And doing it well, well, that’s even harder. After hearing over and over from the leaders I was working with, just tell me what I need to do to make managing easier, I decided to create something. Enter your Legendary Leader Action Tracker. This is a list of 10 things you can do every week to show up better for your team, get out of the weeds, and make both your and your team members’ jobs easier.
Grab the tracker at leahgarvin.com slash action tracker and get ready to take a sigh of relief knowing that you don’t have to figure this out alone. Welcome back to the show. Who out there listening, be honest, feels like they could set a little bit better boundaries with your team? I mean, whether you are a team leader in a large company and you feel like, gosh, I’m problem solving a lot more than I should be, or I’m kind of spelling things out more than necessary, or you’re a business owner, entrepreneur, and you are in it and people come to you for every single question, every single thing, when their dog is sick, when they are stressed about a friend thing, personal, professional, and it feels like it’s just too much.
Now, this is something I have been hearing a lot lately from managers, both in the corporate world and business owners, because I think right now, in a moment where folks are feeling kind of a heightened state of stress and overwhelm, really because of all that’s going on in the world, well, our teams kind of go to us as their manager to be that support system. And maybe we are okay with that for a little while, or we don’t really know what to do, so we start taking stuff on.
Maybe we started with a really small team, we got very close, we’ve grown, and actually we’re realizing our relationship to our team members and to the work has to change. Maybe we started with a team that was very junior and they needed a lot of hand-holding, and then we’ve reached a point where we’re like, fly out of the nest, let’s do this, and they’re not quite getting it. There are a number of reasons why we get in a situation where we feel like, ugh, I’m in too deep.
And I want to reassure you right now that it’s not something that’s unfixable. It can feel really, really like, well, this is what I set up, how do I change this dynamic? I’m in it, I’m stuck. It can feel like that, especially when you’re finding you have really no time for yourself and to be really growing the business, working on the strategy, kind of leveling up as a leader yourself. Because how do you have time when you have to be in every meeting, answer every question, you’re getting texted or emailed or slacked or whatever by your team members every five seconds?
But there is hope. And first I want to say what the problem with all of this is, besides what you already know, which is like, you can’t even take a breath of fresh air because you’re so inundated with things. The biggest problem, we don’t have boundaries, of course, is that people keep taking. Because we haven’t set up a dynamic where they know what they can or can’t ask you or come to you for. And this doesn’t mean you start drawing a hard line, you say, hey, get out of here, don’t ask me anything.
But you start to create a clear delineation between the things that you’re going to be involved in and the things that you really want your team members to own. And so that starts by you figuring out yourself and asking the questions of what are my superpowers and strengths? Where am I really in my zone of genius? What are the things that I need to be doing to be growing the team, be growing the business, to be really driving the strategy here, to be elevating myself?
You want to figure out what you actually want, because sometimes we get stuck in the weeds because we haven’t really figured that out. And so we’re just ping-ponging from one thing to the next or playing whack-a-mole with problems or putting out fires, whatever analogy you want to use. So the first thing to do is to really figure out where am I best situated? And then that also might look at delegating or offloading or hiring someone to help take on some of the work.
I think there’s a lot of things that we can do with delegating things to our team members that are actually really high leverage tasks, things that you were owning that you could hand off and someone can really step into their power as a leader in their team, which is going to help you create a stronger bench of leaders and really level you out of things that you don’t really have to be responsible for. Now, if we’ve had a situation where we had a junior team and we really grew people from kind of entry level or really new at the skill all the way up the chain, this is a moment where you really want to empower folks that, hey, you’ve got this.
Take action. Be a leader. And setting up really clear expectations around, you know, I want you to drive this project or interface with the client in this way or start managing people. And this is why we have built you up to this point. And if someone comes back to you and says, well, I don’t want to do more. I don’t want to manage people. I don’t want to deal with the clients. It’s saying, well, you know, this is the expectation of that job in framing it.
It’s not a favor. OK, this is their job and the job has evolved and the needs of the team or the needs of the company or the needs of the business, they’ve evolved and you need your team to evolve with you. And I’ve had a lot of questions lately of, well, I’m trying to offload. My team says, no, thanks. I don’t want that. And that’s a bigger conversation around what does this business or company need? And we need people to be taking on these roles.
And I’m here to support you. And I’m here to create the conditions for you to be successful, whether it’s coaching or mentorship, if you’re becoming a manager and you’re kind of uneasy about that, or whether it’s more resources or budget or, you know, clarity or, you know, changing timelines, if it’s if it’s taking on a bigger project and you and you need a little bit more support there. But it’s not it’s not really a negotiation. Right.
Because this is what the team and the business needs. So you can have a very empathetic point of view while being very candid on, hey, we’re looking at the next six months of the year. We’re looking ahead at 2025. And this is the roles that we’re going to need to really hit these goals. And I believe in you so much that you’re going to be there right here helping us crush those goals. And this is going to require your job to shift a little bit.
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For 90 days, you have me in your back pocket to help you navigate any and every issue happening on your team. DM me the word sprint on Instagram or email me at hello at leahgarvin.com and let’s build your unstoppable team. And when possible, I mean, for the love of God, please pay people more when you’re adding responsibilities and talk to them about what that looks like. Is there a promotion in the path? Is there a title change?
Hey, you’re taking on more and here’s what that looks like. Or I need you to take on more for a fixed amount of time to cover something. And here’s the way that that will create, open up new opportunities or give you more visibility, right? There’s got to be something in it for them. But the problem, we don’t have boundaries with our team members when they come to us for everything. They’re doing that again and again because it’s making their job easier.
Let’s be honest, right? We wouldn’t do that if we came to our manager or leader over and over and they never responded, they never helped us, we wouldn’t keep doing it. So we’re feeding this dependency that they have. And I often say it’s in your full right just to be candid and transparent and say, hey, I realized I’ve been in the weeds. I’ve been kind of always available and responsive and it’s because I love this team and I love this business and I love all of you.
And I’m realizing I’m not able to help all of you grow and get this company to where it needs to be when I’m always in the details. And so here’s what I’m going to do. I’m going to go in and I’m going to And so here’s what I’m going to be doing. I’m going to create a transition. I’m going to hire a manager. I’m going to hire an ops director to oversee all the team members. And you can still come to me for these things.
But that person’s going to be your go-to instead of me. And I want you to really embrace that role and help that person be successful. Because where I’m really needed at this point in the business or at this point with the team is to be looking up and out. That I’m finding more opportunities to grow the business, more opportunities to highlight all of your work so that you can be promoted and paid even better. Right? So you’re explaining when you’re setting that boundary of why the shift.
It’s not because you don’t feel like it anymore or because you burned out. You don’t really want to paint that picture like, ah, it’s too much. You want to say, hey, I’m realizing a shift is really needed at this stage. And when you frame it in that way, you know, more often than not, I see our teams, our teams embrace that and they say, oh yeah, like, of course. Okay. I think I’ve mentioned the story. I was working with an engineering team and the engineering manager said, well, I’m in so many meetings.
I’m inundated. I’m, I can’t even take any time to help grow the team because I’m in every single meeting. And I said, well, you know, is there an opportunity to have some of your team members lead some of these meetings you’re in? He said, no, they asked me to be there. They want me to be there. There’s a lot of hard conversations and, and sometimes they’re being asked to do more work and they don’t want to feel like, you know, they don’t have air cover or support in the meeting.
And I said, it’s still an opportunity to ask your team members to step up and to set the expectations they need to set up, I should say, not even just ask. And when you do that, when you offload something like that, a meeting where there’s maybe some difficult folks in there and, and your team members are feeling uneasy, have a conversation to set them up for success. Say, hey, I know this is kind of some of the stuff that comes up in the meeting.
Um, if there’s a difficult stakeholder, you know, we can, we’ll prep for how to handle that meeting for any new work. You can always say, Hey, you know, thanks for sharing the work that’s being proposed. We’ll come back to you with an estimate about when we can get that done. You don’t have to agree to anything in the meeting, right? You’re sharing with your team members, how you handle these difficult situations, and then you let them fly.
And you check in with them after say, how did it go? What do we need to adjust? But you don’t just say, okay, cool. I’ll just continue going to this meeting forever because they’d have no ability to step up when you’re doing that. So again, it is about figuring out really where you’re best situated and then resetting those expectations of the team members and looking across your team and thinking, Hey, who can I put into key roles to offload some of this?
What are some of the things that I need to hire for? And how can I really redirect some of the things that were coming to me that I just kind of gotten a rhythm doing so that I can create more space. And again, when there’s more space, this is this beautiful area where your team members start to step up or you start to see, Hey, is this the team that I need to get me to the next level?
Is this the team that we need to get us to this next milestone? Sometimes it’s not. Sometimes there’s a few folks there and a few that really, they really aren’t. And they really needed you to be stepping in there and kind of holding hand, holding everything. And then that’s a different conversation of, okay, how do we elevate everyone to the, to where they need to be for the next thing? Or is it, is it a fact that, Hey, not everyone is going to be the right fit for the next phase.
And then that becomes more of a performance management conversation. But first we have to create space to even think about that because when we’re, when we’re spread so thin and we can’t even like, you know, go to bed without responding to 50 million emails, then we don’t even have the, you know, the, the, the mind space to even think about what’s the next plan. So first things first, figure out where you want to be situated. Next, find a few pockets to start letting go, set expectations.
So your team members are set up for success, frame the conversation, and you are doing this for them so that you can grow the business, grow the team, grow the visibility and, and, and continue to support them in their, in their, you know, career aspirations and everything that they want. And then start to make those simple shifts and the simple shifts. They’re not always that easy to figure out what they are, but they are easy to make and they’re easy to implement.
And that’s where I come in. So we look across your team. We look across, well, where are the biggest bottlenecks? Where are you being pulled in where you don’t really need to be? And what are the new lightweight systems or tools or processes or communication norms that we can implement that will get you out of the weeds? And your team’s really leaning into that ownership mindset that helps grow your team and grow your business. So if you need support with that, I am here.
This is my favorite thing to do to really help free you from that overwhelm of like, ah, I have no space. I have, I have no ability to do what I really need to do. Because when we make that shift, I assure you team members will step up. They will do better. And your job will get easier. So if you want support here, reach out, hello at LeahGarver.com, message me on LinkedIn, whatever’s the easiest way to get in touch.
And the boundary setting, this activity is going to be something you kind of got to do again and again. Okay. It’s not a one and done, especially if you find yourself in a tendency to jump right in when things are needed. So it’s something to think about these questions. Where am I best situated for this stage of my business? How do I delegate and offload? How do I reset the expectation of teams? This is something that you are going to be thinking about over time.
So you really want to build this muscle. All right. But I believe in you. I know you can do it. And I know what is going to free you from that overwhelm, from feeling so bogged down, stuck in the weeds and give you that time back to actually grow your business and propel it to the next level. See you next time. That’s all I have for today. Thank you so much for tuning in to the Managing Made Simple podcast, where my goal is to demystify the job of people management so that together we can make the workplace somewhere everyone can thrive.
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Questions this episode answers
How do I set boundaries with my team without completely changing how we work together?
You don't have to draw a hard line or shut people out. Start by figuring out where you are best situated as a leader, what your zone of genius actually is, and then create a clear delineation between what you stay involved in and what your team members fully own. Frame the shift as something you are doing for the team, not away from them. Explain that stepping back from the day-to-day is how you create space to grow the business, find new opportunities, and support their careers. The shift is gradual, not a sudden reset.
Why does my team keep coming to me for everything even when I want them to work independently?
They keep coming to you because it works. If you have been responsive and helpful every time, you have built a dependency without meaning to. The team is not doing anything wrong, the missing piece is a clear system and expectation around what they should handle on their own. Once you name that dynamic out loud and reset expectations, most teams respond well. Being transparent, saying something like 'I have been too in the weeds and I need to change that so I can actually help you grow,' tends to land better than people expect.
What do I do if a team member refuses to take on more responsibility when I try to delegate?
Be empathetic but clear that this is not a negotiation. When a team member pushes back on taking on more, have a candid conversation about what the business or team needs at this stage and frame it as their job evolving, not a favor being asked of them. Offer real support, whether that is coaching, mentorship, more resources, or clearer timelines. And where possible, connect the added responsibility to something concrete for them, like a pay increase, a title change, or new visibility. But be direct that the role has changed and the team needs them to grow with it.
How do I get out of meetings I don't need to be in without leaving my team unsupported?
Start handing those meetings to team members, but set them up before you let go. Have a prep conversation where you walk through what typically comes up, how to handle a difficult stakeholder, and give them clear language, like 'we will come back to you with an estimate' so they never feel pressured to agree to something on the spot. Then check in after to see how it went and what to adjust. You are not abandoning them, you are building their confidence. They cannot step up if you are always the one in the room.
How do I know if boundary issues with my team are a people problem or a systems problem?
In most cases it starts as a systems problem. When there are no clear norms around who owns what, what decisions need your sign-off, and how team members should handle common situations, people default to asking you for everything. First create space by resetting expectations and delegating deliberately. Once you do that, you can actually see clearly who rises to the occasion and who still struggles. That is when you can tell whether someone needs more coaching, different support, or whether they are simply not the right fit for where the team is headed.